Thursday, June 19, 2008

Haris’es Verses Don’t Negate Death Penalty for Apostates

Haris has provided a rebutal to my article entitled Haris Ibrahim Probably Will Have to Renounce Prophet Musa AS. His rebuttal is entitled Judge ye the tree by its fruit.

Haris says: I can almost hear Rahman screaming that we must give effect to a literal reading of Surah 2 verse 54.
Well, would Rahman also then give effect to a literal reading of the following, please?
‘Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.’ - Surah 2 verse 256
MY REPLY: In only says there is no compulsion to force others converting into Islam. Have nothing to do with death penalty to apostates. Sorry Harris.

Haris quotes:‘If it had been thy Lord’s will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe?’ - Surah 10 verse 99

MY REPLY:Has nothing to do with apostasy at all. I do not see it at all with regards to Apostasy.

Haris quotes:"‘Do not make excuses; you have denied indeed after you had believed; if We pardon a party of you, We will chastise (another) party because they are guilty. The hypocritical men and the hypocritical women are all alike; they enjoin evil and forbid good and withhold their hands; they have forsaken Allah, so He has forsaken them; surely the hypocrites are the transgressors. Allah has promised the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women and the unbelievers the fire of hell to abide therein; it is enough for them; and Allah has cursed them and they shall have lasting punishment.’ -Surah 9 verses 66-68.

MY REPLY:The verse speaks about the Hypocrites, which are Muslims on the outside but kufr on the inside. In other words, hypocrites are those who do not express their kufr feeling to Allah. They project an image of being a Muslim but in their hearts they reject Islam.
How then can they be punished for crime of apostasy when they do not express their riddah?
If they expose their true beliefs then they will be subjected to the laws of apostasy. If they don’t then there is no evidence, is there?

Haris says: Also, could Rahman reconcile his obsession with killing the apostates against the following command of God?
‘Tell those who believe to forgive those who hope not for the days of Allah; in order that He may requite folk what they used to earn.’ - Surah 45 verse 14

MY REPLY: I struggle to find what this verse has anything to do with apostasy? The term “hope not for the days of Allah” could mean Muslims who are not prepared for the Day of Judgement.

Haris says: Finally, perhaps Rahman would care to share with us why, when so many verses heavily point to God dealing with apostates to the exclusion of all others, he would choose to read one verse as an imperative to kill?

MY REPLY: First of all, none of the verses Haris quoted “heavily point to God dealing with apostates”. It is only Haris’s interpretation of the verses. Nothing more.
Second, it is a Sunnah shown by the Prophet SAW and Sunnah is part of God’s revelations as stated in 62:02 and many more. And not to mention, Saidina Musa does it too as reported in 02:54.

In conclusion, there are no verses in the Quran that supports Haris’s case at all. Haris will be struggling to find his justification from the Quran’s perspective.


Rozaimi Bin Mohd Said said...

You are absolutely right about the verse "there is no compulsion in Islam". It means no compulsion to profess Islam but when you are a Muslim, you can be forced to to what Allah asked usto do and leave what Allah prohibits us from doing. Unfortunately many Muslims out there especially those liberal thinking Muslims who likes to interprest Al-Qur'an and Hadith to suit their on needs interpret the above Qur'anic verse to cover all aspects in Islam including the do's and the dont's in Islam. That is why some of them said that, "don't force me to pray because Allah said there is no compulsion in Islam".

Tulang Besi said...

TQ Rozaimi.

I took this initiative because there is too much unfair attacks on Islam especially done by those who call themselves Muslims

Anonymous said...

Assalamu Alaikum to Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah

Rahman said: In conclusion, there are no verses in the Quran that supports Haris’s case at all. Haris will be struggling to find his justification from the Quran’s perspective.

Rahman can you please explain this verse:

'Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang beriman, kemudian mereka kafir, kemudian mereka beriman semula, kemudian mereka kafir sekali lagi, kemudian mereka bertambah-tambah lagi dengan kekufuran, Allah tidak sekali-kali akan memberi ampun kepada mereka dan tidak akan memberi petunjuk hidayat kepada mereka ke jalan yang benar. (Nisaa 137).

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Rahman adalah seorang munafik yang menduakan Allah.

Bertaubatlah wahai penyembah Bukhari!

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