Tuesday, July 31, 2007

More Issues On Anti Hadeeth Methodology


9.0 Anti Hadeeth claims that books on Arabic grammar and language should not be used in interpreting and understanding the Quran. We must let the Quran explain itself.

REPLY: This is the funniest statement ever made by the Anti Hadeeth sect. The humor sticks out like a sore thumb after one understands the process explained below:


Major Translators of Quran learns Arabic from grammar books written by people (except Anti Hadeeth translators, of course).


They translate the Quran based on what they learned from the Arabic grammar books and others


Anti Hadeeth exponents reads the translations to try to understand the Quran


Anti Hadeeth derive rules, regulations and methodologies in understanding the Quran


Anti hadeeth says that Arabic Grammar books are written by humans and therefore they cannot be used to understand the Quran.

BUT, all that the Anti Hadeeth has understood of the Quran comes from translations based upon the rules written in these grammar books?

In other words, anti hadeeth has effectively rejected everything they’ve come to understand from the Quran. This is the humor.

10.0 But, what about translations from the likes of Rashad Khalifah. They too have translation of the Quran

REPLY: Rashad’s work is a translation upon translation of the Quran. In other words, he writes his translation by reading other translation of the Quran. So, his translation can be summed up as the translation of the translation of the Quran.

That also explains why Rashad’s translation is “politically correct” from the perspective of secular liberalists.

For instance, the verse 16:44, Rashad translates as

(Rashad) ….And we sent down to you this message, to proclaim for the people……..

Compare it with the other reliable translators:

(Yusuf Ali)………and We have sent down unto thee (also) the Message; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them…………..

(Pickhall)…… Remembrance that thou mayst explain to mankind that which hath been revealed for them……”

Noticed that Rashad deliberately change the the word “to explain” to become “to proclaim” simply to justify his demented and backward anti hadeeth ideology. He knows that if the meaning of 16:44 is not twisted beyond recognition, it will serve as a deadly blow to his twisted anti hadeeth ideology.

Such is the reason why I say that when quoting translation of the Quran, do not quote Rashad’s along with the other names as Rashad’s translation is not ion the same stature of the rest.

Rashad’s can be characterized as plagerized from other translation while inserting his demented and sick anti hadeeth ideology.

11.0 Why does the Anti Hadeeth needs to reject Arabic Grammar and basically the entire discipline of the Arabic language?

REPLY: If the actual Arabic language methodology is used, then the Quran cannot be interpreted as they will. The Quran will also have to be understood contradictory to their sick and demented ideology. One example is quoted above in my commentary on Rashad Khalifa’ translation.

Other examples are as such:

  1. They cannot claim that Al Kitab and Kitab is the same anymore. This destroys many of their interpretation of the Quran.
  2. They cannot claim that Al Kitab and Al Hikmah is the same anymore. This will force them to accept the Al Hadeeth as Revelations from God.
  3. They cannot claim that “faqtulu anfusakum” as “ neutralize your ego”
  4. They cannot claim that masjid and yasjudan means the same; submission
  5. They cannot claim that Ar Ruh is Al Ilm because it just doesn’t make sense
  6. They cannot claim that there is no Majaz in the Quran
  7. They cannot claim that there is no Balaghah in the Quran
  8. They cannot claim that wau atfa in the Quran has no significance in terms of meaning.
  9. They cannot claim that “faqtau aidiyahuma” as cutting of their means of living
  10. They cannot claim that there is no aborogation in the Quran
  11. They cannot claim that there is no Al Am Wal Khas in the Quran
  12. They cannot claim that the Hadeeth of the Prophet contradicts the Quran anymore
  13. They cannot claim that the Quran rejects the AlHadeeth An Nabawiy anymore.

Seeing that the Arabic Language discipline results in the Quran contradicting their ideology, they decide to do the next best thing, to reject the Arabic language itself.

They don’t realize by doing so, they are also rejecting their entire understanding of the Quran. Since, their entire understanding of the Quran is based upon Quran’s translations which is made based upon the Arabic language discipline.

12.0 Anti Hadeeth cited this particular hadeeth as evidence of the hadeeth being stupid:

Narrated 'Aisha:

“The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him"

The likes of True Muslim representing the Anti Hadeeth sect has this to say about this hadeeth:

According to this precious piece of magnificence from Bukhari, women are like dogs and donkeys. And exactly which verse in the Quran is explained by this precious pearl?”

REPLY: Clearly True Muslim and his kind does not have the mental capability to understand a simple hadeeth like this.

The part- “They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman” is something which is mentioned to Saidatina Aisyah by someone else other than the Prophet SAW. The next part “I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla” is meant to refute what Saidatina Aisya has heard.

The hadeeth makes no reference to the Prophet equalizing women with dogs and donkeys. Or maybe the anti hadeeth sect needs to get their eyes examine. While they’re at it why don’t they get their brains checked as well.

CONCLUSION: I’m beginning to appreciate why certain quarters of the ulama resisted the idea of allowing the translation of the Quran. Apparently, they foresaw the appearance of the likes of Anti Hadeeth sect that will do nothing but disrespect and confuse the message of the Quran even more.

It’s safe to say that Anti Hadeeth is a sect that is based upon an English Quran from the Planet Uranuz.


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TruthBehindIt said...


"He who obeys the Rasool, has indeed obeyed Allah." (4: 80)

The Book that the Rasool brought for me...is before me....and ....the (bashar) Rasool is dead now....

Remember....and don't forget....Rasool is a Rasool, because of Al Quran...Had Muhammad not recieved Al-Quran, he never would have been a Rasool.....

"Rasool" is a Divine Designation.....and not an earthly one....!
And with this Divine Designation....the Rasool receives a Divine Book....!
So a DIVINE RASOOL is connected with a DIVINE BOOK....and he is not at all connected with earthly books (Sahah Sittah).

Al-Quran is the REASON why he was a Rasool...!
Al-Quran is the Divine PROOF of his being a Rasool...!

If anyone asks "What is the proof, O Muhammad, you are a Rasool?"
The Rasool will never put forward his ahadees as a Divine PROOF...!
His ahadees are not at all a Divine PROOF for the Rasool...
He will recite Ayaat from Al-Quran as a Divine PROOF...

And....remember, Muhammad is Muhammad, without The Divine Book.
But.....keep in mind....the Rasool is not a Rasool, without Al-Quran.

Is this something difficult for you to understand....or...you do understand well...but...!!!

So...when you or anyone....talking about Rasool, you are talking about Al-Quran....and you are not talking about his ahadees...

Same way....when Allah is talking about His Exalted Rasool....Allah is talking about His Exalted Book, Al-Quran which was given to him....and not his ahadees..lol..!
And...when Allah is Commanding "Ati ur Rasool" (4: 80), Allah is Commanding to follow Al-Quran with which the Rasool is connected....

Rasool is a MEDIUM through which Allah is Communicating with his creation.....
It means.....If Rasool is Communicating...It is in fact, Allah is Communicating with His creation...!

And...it means...if Allah is not Communicating....the MEDIUM is silent....indeed, silent...!

Is it something difficult for anyone to understand.....or as such, you don't understand the meaning of "Rasool"...?

Rasool gave the mankind, Al-Quran only....and this is Proven in Al-Quran.
Through THE MEDIUM, the mankind received Allah's COMMUNICATIONS Only.
And the Rasool never never never gave us his own ahadees....because AHADEES are not Allah's COMMUNICATIONS.

So......If I follow Al Quran, then, I am, Alhamdolillah, with all contentment, obeying the Rasool...(4: 59, 80)


Is this something making the majority of this Ummah...... annoyed, worried, angry......!!!

If I revere Rasool, it means...I Revere Al-Quran, ....and Revering Al-Quran means.....Revering Allah.
And...if I obey the Rasool, it means....I obey Al-Quran....and obeying Al-Quran means....obeying Allah. (4: 80)

Why obeying the Rasool is obeying Allah...?
What is it....that makes "Ati Allah" and "Ati ur Rasool"...ONE THING....
It is, indeed, Al-Quran.

Allah sent down Al-Quran.
The Rasool brought Al-Quran.
So what Allah sent down, is exactly what the Rasool brought...
That is why obeying Al-Quran,... is obeying Rasool,...and obeying Allah.

If, to "OBEY THE RASOOL"......you disconnect the Rasool from Al-Quran......the Rasool is no more a Rasool....clearly,,,!

Then, after diconnecting the Rasool from Al-Quran....who do you think you are obeying.....?????????

But....so sad...the Ummah today, to Obey the Rasool, easily and unjustly disconnect the Rasool from Al-Quran, and connect him with Sahah Sittah (which the Rasool never knew of and never owned).

Think......if you wish....or leave for those who think.......!

TruthBehindIt said...

Blasphemy Law is not in Allah’s Quran. It is a man-made law.
Should we follow Allah’s Quran–Or–Should we follow man-made law???
O people of the ummah! Why don’t you read your Allah’s Quran and follow It?

Allah declares in His Quran:
—”Indeed, (O Messenger) We will look into the affair of those who speak scornfully against you.” (9: 95)----

Allah Himself will look into the blasphemy matter. Allah didn’t allow anyone to take the matter in his hands.

—”And indeed, We know that your breast is straitened of what they say. So glorify the praises of your Lord and be of those who prostrate themselves (to Him). And worship your Lord until there comes unto you the certainty (death).” (9: 97-99)