Saturday, June 28, 2008

Article 11 Movement is About Secular Liberalism, Period

Article 3 of Malaysia's Constitution is clearer than day, Islam is the religion of the Federation. It clearly states that Islam has a special status in this country and therefore it cannot be accorded the same treatment as other religion in Malaysia. At the same time, other religion are allowed to be practiced and believed in by their respective followers without the state interference.

Suddenly out of nowhere, came a group who calls themselves Article 11. They claim they want to set things straight in Malaysia and ensure that everything, religous wise, that occurs in Malaysia must adhere to the Article 11 of the Constitution.

Some of the members of this group considers themselves to be Muslims, yet they practice some of the things that Shariah prohibits them from doing like drinking alcohol, committing zina and many more. I don't want to name names yet, but if I am forced to I will.

Yet, can we really trust the Article 11 group? Are their interpretation of Article 11 valid? Can their interpretation of Article 11 be allowed to roam the free earth of Malaysia?

They argue that since Article 11 states that every Malaysians are accorded freedom of religion, therefore all Shariah enacments we have today are null and void. Basically, Islamic laws cannot be enforced upon the Muslims as, in their view, it contradicts Article 11 of the Constitution.

The Article 11 people have forgotten that ISlamic shariah laws have been the law of this land preceeding the country's constitution. Article 4 of the Constitution states that the COnstitution is Supreme and that any laws passed after Merdeka which is contradictory to the Constitution is nulled.

It doesn't say anything about laws enacted BEFORE merdeka. Therefore, it is safe to take that laws before Merdeka are not subject to Article 4 of the Constitution as the "contradictory" clause only applies to laws enacted after Merdeka.

Most Shariah laws enactments are passed LONG before Merdeka such as the one in Selangor, Perak, Kelantan, Perlis etc. Therefore, how could the Article 11 group claim their interpretation of the Article 11 be valid? Clearly Article 4 of the Constitution recognizes the supremacy of the various Islamic laws that had existed before Merdeka.

What about the fact that Islam is the RELIGION OF THE FEDERATION.
Hamid CAJ (as he then was) in Kamariah bte Ali v Kerajaan Negeri Kelantan, Malaysia opined that in allowing Article 11 to be construed so liberally would entail making invalid entire bodies of Islamic law; e.g. Zakat laws, marriage laws, et cetera. (In short, all Islamic laws would be rendered null and void.)

By invalidating Islamic laws, wouldn't that constitute an insult to the "religion of the Federation" and by extension, an insult to the Federation itself? You insult the religion of the Federation, you're insulting the Federation itself.

What about the fact there exists Article 121 1A of the Constitution that guarantees supremacy of the Shariah courts? ANd the countless preceedence dating back to Merdeka where jurisdiction of the Shariah courts are almost always conceeded by Civil court judges? Why didn't the Article 11 group take into consideration these acts?

The truth of the matter is that Article 11 is nothing but a bunch of western lackeys trying to impose Secular Liberalism upon the Muslims in this country. They know what they stand for is HIGHLY unpopular. THey know 99% of Muslims in this country loathes, despise, hates, look down and reject their actions.

So, they have to find a way to insert their disgusting Liberal Secularism ideology and they decided to use the High Courts of Malaysia.

In truth, the Article 11 group's interpretation of the Article 11 of the constitution represents the recolonization of the West upon the Muslim population of Malaysia. It is trying to destroy Islamic institution and especially Shariah. It is trying to project Islam as a mere belief meant for private domain only.

It's classic ideological nonsense taken lot,stock and barrel from their liberal "buddies" in the West. Do they know that the Liberal policies have been exposed one after another to have been a miserable failure. All of liberal policies have been nothing but a human disaster and a failed experiment.

For instance, feminism has done nothing but promotes lesbianism. More and more western women are rejecting Feminism. More and more Western women are opting to be stay home mothers.

I think the ultimate nonsensical move by the feminists is when they started to sue launderates in the US for charging differently between men and women's clothing. I saw an episode of 60 minutes where the nonsense of feminism was exposed.

In short, from an Islamic perspective, the Muslims in Article 11 movements and their supporters are what Allah SWT describe as infidels, as enemies of Allah, as those who are trying to extinguish the light of Allah SWT.

But heed the assurance of Allah SWT in the Quran:

"61:8. Their intention is to extinguish Allah.s Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it)"

I dare not call them Muslims now except maybe some of them are deceived into supporting the movement or they are genuinely ignorant.

As such, there is a group called PEMBELA who are fighting the efforts of HAris Ibrahim, Malik Imtiaz and all in trying to get judgements that will impose secular liberalism upon Muslims in this country.

THey are all imbeciles, decoits, a waste of the air they're breathing, taking up precious space on God's green earth. Their existance is unwanted and therefore unwarranted.

They are truly enemies of Islam.

And here is the rest of it.


aku said...

gua bukan bermaksud nak melabelke atau mengkategorikanke, tapi lu ingat diorang ni boleh dikenali sbg muslim lagi tak? ataukah mereka2 ni didlm golongan muslim yg fasik ? ataukah mereka2 ini tergolong sbg musuh2 islam?

Tulang Besi said...

Mcm ni la, kalau diorang bagi salam,jgn jawab la.

Setakat ni, saya tak konfiden diorang ni boleh dikira sebagai orang Islam.

Rozaimi Bin Mohd Said said...


I do agree that by virtue of Article 3 of the Fed Consti, Islam should be put in a place higher than any other religion and to compare between Islam and other religions in Malaysia, to that extent, an insult to our Fed Consti...but bearing in mind of one court case (I can't remember the case name) that says that what Article 3 of Fed Consti means is that it is only for ritual purposes i.e. in any official function, it has to start with prayer (Islam) and perhaps the recitation of Al-Qur'an, etc, etc and nothing more than that.

As such, by right, if we want to put Islam in the highest place among all religions in Malaysia, it should be done on the basis that Islam is a divine religion that came from Allah, the Almighty as compared to other religions, which are man made religion.

Flaming Firestonez said...


A good article. May Allah help you to face them.

Tulang Besi said...

dear rozaimi,

I don't think it's a court case at all. That's why you can't remember it.

I think it's mostly Lord Reid's comment during the meeting to finalize the MAlaysian Constitution.

But, who cares about what Lord Reid's think. He's dead and we go by what the wordings of the Constitution go

Anonymous said...

Assalamu alaikum to Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah.

Hello Rahman,

No one questions that Islam shall be the religion of the Federation. I am so happy that our constitution has this clause. I am so very proud that in my IC it says 'Islam'.

Rahman does your IC say 'Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah' ?

Artcle 11 of our Federal Constitution is based on this best hadith from the Quran :

"Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang beriman, kemudian mereka kafir, kemudian mereka beriman semula, kemudian mereka kafir sekali lagi, kemudian mereka bertambah-tambah lagi dengan kekufuran, Allah tidak sekali-kali akan memberi ampun kepada mereka dan tidak akan memberi petunjuk hidayat kepada mereka ke jalan yang benar. (Al Nisaa 137).

So the Quran says that a person can beriman, murtad, beriman again, murtad again and continue in murtad kafir. Nothing happens to him other than God will not forgive him or show him the way.

Article 11 of our Constitution is based on Surah Al Nisaa ayat 137.

Assalamu Alaikum to Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaah.

Tulang Besi said...


I think u need to learn what ahlus sunnah wal jamaah is first before u comment.

Also, maybe it's because under Islam there are those on the right path, and there are those on the deviated path.

So, to differentiate between the two groups, we have to use labels because the other groups, albeit being Muslims, are deviated.

For example, a Shia will still be considered as Muslim but they're deviated.

it's like instead of saying the word "car" u say "Toyota Corrolla" or "Honda Civic". But, a Corrolla is a different brand of car than a Honda Civic

ahmad said...


I just want to comment few things, if I am allowed to;

1. The only rightful party to interpret Article 11 of the Constitution is the Federal Court. Any other interpretation by any other party is useless and of no effect. It may influence the public opinion, but public opinion is not legally binding. Therefore, Muslims must make sure that the majority of the judges sitting in the Federal Court are Muslims, genuine Muslims.

2. The contention that “All of liberal policies have been nothing but a human disaster and a failed experiment” is too general and of no proof.

3. The contention that the “feminism has done nothing but promotes lesbianism” is too overstretching. The struggle for the women’s right need to be acknowledged.

4. “In short, from an Islamic perspective, the Muslims in Article 11 movements and their supporters are what Allah SWT describe as infidels, as enemies of Allah” is a very dangerous statement. Remember when Rasulullah SAW said, “Who says there is no god but Allah, then he is a Muslim”.

5. The Article 11 group will do whatever necessary to fight for what they belief. In order to counter their struggle I humbly belief that we should not, among others, let weaknesses set in. “Generalization” and “simplistic thinking” are among the weaknesses. Wallahu’alam.

Anonymous said...

Tun Salleh LP in Che Omar Che Soh vs PP [1988] 2 MLJ 55. This court case clearly stated that Islam as the official religion was for ritualistic and ceremonial purposes.

There is a lot of ignorance and bigotry exhibited in the article and comments.

Islam would not exist if not for The Jews and the Christians from whom it derived many of its prophets though taught differently from the Bible.

When people have explored the world then they may claim their country is the best even if it is still a subjective idea.

Malaysian muslims have not explored the worlld of religions and in bigotry make proud boasts despite the fallacies of the teachings they have been taught about Christianity.

I grew up a Buddhist immersed in my religion until curiosity for the truth led me to read up on other religions including Islam.

I had false ideas about Christianity like most people even among certain so called Christians until I read the Bible and was convinced it was the truth that I had been seeking.

Christians believe There is only One God and while it explains the idea differently a proper study of who God is will enable one to understand why God is and what he is on about.

People who have never studied other religions or read the teachings of Jesus will always be like the katak bawa tempurung and parrot the things they have been taught without developing their own convictions.

Our souls are too important for us to accept what we have been taught or compelled to believe. We owe it to ourselves to be sure what we believe will result in an eternal future with God.

As for me after a long search I found Jesus to be what the Bible says he claimed to be ' the way,the truth and the life." John 14:6.

Until we give ourselves the freedom to explore and reach our own faith we are merely fooling ourselves and parroting others and resort to compulsion because we feel threatened we may be wrong after all.

But if we know who we believe and have entrusted our souls to Him then we will not be afraid or defensive.

Paul the Jew, a Jewiish religious leader, who murdered and persecuted Christians became a Christian when he was accosted by Jesus on the road to Damascus and became a martyr for Christianity.

Until we meet Jesus on our own road to Damascus we will continue to breathe murderous threats to others when they challenge our preconceived ideas.

But I have believed in Jesus and submiitted my soul to Allah as God is known in The Arab world and in Malaysia and found peace and joy for more than 40 years.

I was born into a religion but was born again in God through Jesus - the true living God and God is One.