Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Defending Imam Bukhari from Anti Hadeeth Lies

In this session I shall try to point out the lies promoted by Anti Hadeeth against Imam Bukhari.

For your kind information, ALL of their attacks on Imam Bukhari are taken from Syiah sources. The Anti Hadeeth are too dumb to understand the writings of Imam Bukhari so much that they have to depend on third party sources to mount their attacks.

ATTACK #1: How could Imam Bukhari writes down 600,000 hadeeth in 16 years. They says
“600,000 hadith / 16 years = 37,500 per year = 3,125 per month = 104.66 per day (30 days
in a month) = 8.68 hadith per hour (assuming a 12 hour day).

no breaks for lunch, 5 times prayer, kentut, toilet, public holidays, wesak day etc. bullshit.
Also, where did he get the time to teach 90,000 people ??

MY REPLY: That’s because you’re an idiot as like any typical run-of-the-mills Anti Hadeeth. When
we say Hadeeth, we refer to “matn” and “sanad”. 1 hadeeth have one matn and one sanad. The
next hadeeth will have the same matn but different sanad. The third hadeeth will have the same
sanad but different matn.

Therefore, it doesn’t take Imam Bukhari more than one hour to memorize/analyze/write down 200
hadeeth at least.

200 hadeeth = 1 hr

2400 hadeeth = 12 hrs/day

38400 hadeeth= In 16 days(average)

And for 16 years Imam Bukhari have the capacity to narrate/analyze/write more than
14,016,000 hadeeth.

THEREFORE, since he only analyzed 700,000, it shows that he managed to make time for
other activities as well i.e. eating, travelling, teachings etc.

ATTACK #2 : Anti Hadeeth claims that Imam Bukhari’s lineage specifically his great,great grandfather by the name of Bardizba al Jufri.

MY REPLY: This is actually true considering that at that time, the call for Islam has not reached Bukhara. It’s clear that the son of Bardizba, Ibn Mughira converted to Islam and that’s when Imam Bukhari’s family started contributing to the scholarly works of Islam

ATTACK #3 : That Imam Bukhari and many Imams of Islam are fire worshippers and have never ceased from worshipping fires. They rely their case upon a book written by Abdul Wadud at

MY REPLY: In truth, Syed Abdul Wadud is a deranged man claiming the existence of a Persian-Zorostarianism conspiracy against the Quran and against Islam. He claims that the Al Hadeeth is a product, or by-product of such conspiracy.

Of course, he provides no legitimate proof or any evidence that can hold up in court. Most of what he writes are either sourced from the orientalists or the Shia sources themselves.

Among the glaring mistake that is contained in his book is

1. Never did he quote verses 16:44, 16:64, 62:02, 02:231, 02:151 and many more in his analysis of the Quran.
2. He listed the six Imam Hadeeth and calls them all PERSIANS. Everyone knows that Imam Muslim is an Arab, so is Abu Dawood, An Nasai and Ibnu Majah. The only one that’s not Arab is Imam Bukhari. So much for relying on credible source.
3. He still quotes sources from Al Hadeeth An Nabawiy and make his conclusion based on that
4. He doesn’t understand a single thing about what he read in the Hadeeth and all that he has quoted
5. His historical facts are either unfounded or figments of his own imagination.

Therefore, the Anti Hadeeth relies on crack-pot intellect like Abdul Wadud to get their justification in attacking Imam Bukhari.

ATTACK #4 : Anti Hadeeth claims that Imam Bukhari memorized 600,000 hadeeth yet he only authenticate 7000 and declared the rest to be inauthentic

MY REPLY: Those learned in Ulum Al Hadeeth would know that Imam Bukhari had never declared
other than the 7000 hadeeth to be unauthentic.My only comment is for those who accuses Imam
Bukhari of something and fail to provide proof, he/she is an outright liar. As for the question of who
wrote Sahih Bukhari, let me remind all of us that the works of Imam Bukhari have been studied by
all scholars, muslims and non. Yet, not a single one of them ever doubted that the Sahih was
written by Imam Bukhari.

ATTACK #5 : The list of teachers of Imam Bukhari are like so:

1. Tabi'een

2. Contemporaries of Tabi'een but did not narrate.

3. Heard from elderly Tabi'een.

4. Narrates from his colleagues who were his seniors.

5. Narrates from his juniors.

Anti Hadeeth then went on saying “contemporaries of tabi'een but did not narrate”.
so they kept their mouth shut !! so how did bukhari get the hadith from them – did he
force them to narrate ???

MY REPLY: He studied under them about the hadeeth he narrated. He doesn’t get narration
from them because they do not want to be in the chain of narration. But, these tabieen knows
about hadeeth as much as the tabi’een who narrates Hadeeth

ATTACK #6: There is no evidence as to who wrote Aj Jami' As Sahih. There is no evidence that
Imam Bukhari wrote the book.

MY REPLY: In fact, the Sahih Bukhari is the most recorded document in history. The reason
why there are so many version is because the Aj Jami is recorded by so many of Imam Bukhari's
students. At least 90,000 students studied directlyunder him.
Therefore, when is AJ Jami's is recorded, there are bound to be more than one version.
But ALL VERSIONS contained the same number of hadeeth.

According to Ibn Hajar Asqalani in his book Nukat, the
number of hadiths in all narrations (versions) is the same. The most famous one
today is the version narrated by al-Firabri (d. 932), who is a trusted
student of Bukhari. Khatib al-Baghdadi in his book History of Baghdad had quoted
Firabrisaying: "There were about seventy thousand people who have heard Sahih
Bukhari with me".

Firabri is not the only transmitter of Sahih al-Bukhari. There were many others that narrated that book to later generations, such as Ibrahim ibn Ma'qal (d. 907), Hammad ibn Shaker (d. 923), Mansur Burduzi (d. 931), and Husain Mahamili (d. 941). There are many books that noted differences between these versions; Fath al-Bari is the most famous among them.


farasat latif said...

aslamalaiqum. please see link below.

This e book examine the works of three individuals and their supporters; Ghulam Ahmad Parwez, Rashad Khalifa,and Kassim Ahmad. By examining the arguments of the Qur’aniyun, the research shows that their views on the concept, status, and history of hadith are seriously flawed, and contradict both the Qur’an and historical fact. It demonstrates that a sophisticated methodology existed for the preservation, compilation, and verification of hadith. It also demonstrates that the Qur’an clearly gives indication to the concept of the Sunna and obligates the Muslim to follow the hadith. By logical necessity, the hadith will have been preserved; otherwise the verses pertaining to the obligation of following the hadith would be irrelevant and illogical.

Anonymous said...

وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَشْتَرِي لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَهَا هُزُوًا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ

"But there are among men those who patronize ridiculous hadiths (لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ) without knowledge (thereby) misleading from the Path of Allah and throwing a butt of mockery: for such there will be a humiliating Penalty" (Sura Luqman:6)

Drink of Camel's urine

By Abu Qilaba : Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He (Prophet) then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle."

Sahih Bukhari Volume 001, Book 004, Hadith No. 234

Prophet leave us the hadith?

Narrated By 'Abdul 'Aziz bin Rufai' : Shaddad bin Ma'qil and I entered upon Ibn 'Abbas. Shaddad bin Ma'qil asked him, "Did the Prophet leave anything (besides the Qur'an)?" He replied. "He did not leave anything except what is Between the two bindings (of the Qur'an)." Then we visited Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiyya and asked him (the same question). He replied, "The Prophet did not leave except what is between the bindings (of the Qur'an)."

Sahih Bukhari Volume 006, Book 061, Hadith No. 537.

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Anonymous (Not the one sells the coffee, the Shia one)

The verse you quoted from the quran referes to those who want to astray people like Shias not to those who guide people to the right path like Imam Bukhari.

Anonymous said...

The reason why hadith books is not allowed to be used because the prophet said in the quran that god cannot forgive a man for association others with allah but he can forgive u for anything else if he pleases now bukhari is associating others with allah rulings change because of hadiths people dont believe that prophet mohammed sends the message of allah which is the quran and the quran was written by his sahabat n if all muslims have read all the message of the quran u will know that most hadiths is false n one false hadiths that a person talks about our beloved prophet there refuge will be the hell fire. And people dont know which one is false except those who have read all the quran. So becareful to all muslims this is the sin that cannot be forgiven to man kind for talking falsehood about our prophet n allah

Anonymous said...

bukhari came years after the prophet and also he lived in Uzbekistan do i have to say more?

Politicalamity9 said...

Your first few paragraphs already denounce your credibility of this article....

Davi Barker said...

I am only concerned with Attack #1. I don't find appeals to conspiracy or lineage remotely persuasive. Also, it's clear Bukhari taught people in the last 24 years of his life, not during the 16 he was compiling, so this is irrelevant. With regards to your reply, denouncing the questioner as an idiot is no rebuttal. You have an audience, many of whom are converts like myself simply trying to make sense of this mess. Resorting to insults only harms your credibility and obfuscates the issue. But further, breaking the hadith into the text and the chain does not help your argument. It helps the attack. It means that more work had to be done. It meant the Bukhari had to be constantly cross referencing his work, comparing every hadith to all others to find the redundancy. He had to do far more than merely write down 600,000 hadith in that time. He had to analyze it for compatibility with the Quran, he had to investigate the reputations of all narrators in the chain, he had to categorize them into chapters headings and subjects. Just because the text is the same in multiple hadith does not absolve him of the task or writing them all down. Even the Sahih collection has roughly 9,000 repetitious narrations.

While I'm sure a human being could, in a white heat, physically write down 9 hadith per hour with full chains of narration, the degree of attention given also speaks to quality control. The man was human after all. I've worked in data entry, and even brainlessly transcribing text, with zero analysis, results in numerous errors after hours of focused work the insufficient breaks.

And while I can accept that he had time to eat, pray and sleep, the greatest expenditure of time must have been travel. We're talking about a horse and buggy world, and he traveled all of it. I've heard anecdotes of Bukhari traveling for weeks to remove villages to collect one hadith.

Finally, your math of 200 hadith = 1 hour seems like complete conjecture. I'm not sure how you arrived at that figure. I couldn't even read 200 hadith in 1 hour.

But ultimately here is the issue. The question is not whether or not Sahih Bukhari is fabricated or not. It's a question of whether or not it's reliable beyond reasonable doubt. Could a reasonably prudent person sincerely examine the available information and come to the assessment that they do not have enough confidence in Bukhari's work to bet their soul on. Given the content of the book one also has to ask, do they have enough confidence in Bukhari's work to take a life based on it. If any reasonable doubt exists in it than it is unbefitting of a Merciful God to require that we base our religion on it, or to punish us for not accepting it.